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Clay and Buck

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The Illegal Immigration Numbers Are Staggering

29 Mar 2022

BUCK: In the next few days, according to U.S. Border Patrol chief Raul Ortiz, the U.S. will hit one million encounters — that means apprehensions, folks — for fiscal year 2022. Fiscal 2022 began on October 1st. That means a million in just six months, and that is not including the got-aways. This is from the very excellent Fox News reporter who does the border reporting. Clay, I will look up his name. I’m sorry. I pulled this… I tried to pull the whole tweet. I only got some of the tweet there, but —

CLAY: It’s gonna get worse too. You know this better than anybody. As we roll through 2022 and as the weather gets in a situation where you can come across in March, April, and May before it gets super hot, that’s when people can really pour across the border in monster numbers.

BUCK: And if they get rid of Title 42 there is already intelligence that Border Patrol has that there are… We were calling them caravans but it’s almost like a caravan in place already. They’re not mobile. They’ve already gathered on the Mexico side of the border and they’re just waiting for that Title 42 to drop and then they’re gonna try to overwhelm the border resources and this is why I was mentioning this.

I was trying to get to law enforcement on the cop side. We’ll get to that in a second. I just got stuck with Border Patrol thoughts ’cause, again, we got a lot of Border Patrol — and they appreciate it, ’cause they say, “Not nearly enough, not nearly enough time spent on this issue,” which is number two in the polls of most Republican voters.

It’s always high up for independent voters too. Very important issue nationwide, illegal immigration, very important issue nationwide. But what ends up happening is people think if we have more resources deployed at the border — even if, let’s say, we were to send the military to the border which people will talk about — that would help a little bit.

It wouldn’t solve the problem because the problem we have at the U.S.-Mexico border right now for illegal entry is one of law enforcement and political will and statute. And for anyone who wants to know what I mean, you could have National Guard standing every 10 feet along the border and, folks, you know what would happen right now?

Family units, especially — or family units and unaccompanied children — would say, “Hello, here I am. I would like to claim asylum,” and under the law as it is interpreted in force right now, they are let into the country and they are processed. It is not “if only we had more people down there at the border we could solve this problem,” because the people that are in charge don’t want to actually enforce the laws that are currently on the books and not in a serious way. Clay, it is a mess.

CLAY: Here’s how well it is distributed worldwide to know what a mess it is. I read this article and I couldn’t believe it. We’ve heard a lot more about the Ukrainian border than we have our southern border. But here is an intersection of the two. There are Ukrainians now who have fled Ukraine, flown to Mexico, and are coming across to get into the United States through our southern border.

It is so well known how much of a sieve that our southern border is that even people right now in Ukraine, Buck, who are fleeing outside of their country are aware, “Hey, I can take a flight from Europe to Mexico and when I get to Mexico! I can cross the United States border there at the southern border.” I was reading I think it was in the New York Times article about Ukrainians who making the choice to come across our southern border to enter and claim asylum in that method.

BUCK: Right.

CLAY: Pretty wild to think about.

BUCK: They go to the front of the asylum line in a sense. They decide that they won’t actually… Remember, a refugee would be applying from the let’s say  in Poland. That’s refugee status. Asylum is, “Here I am! I need to stay here or else.” So I totally understand why Ukrainians do this —

CLAY: They’re gaming the system, yes.

BUCK: — as the way to get into the country and stay here. So, anyway, the border is something we’ll continue to bring you numbers on and focus on. I actually want to get down there again probably this summer when it can be —

CLAY: I’ve never been. I actually —

BUCK: Want to go down?

CLAY: Yeah, we should take the show and remotely do it.

BUCK: I’ve got great contacts down there. We’ll get some folks on the Texas side. It’ll be good. Let’s do that. We should get down to the border at some point in time. We have to so the great affiliates down in Texas that could host us and we’ll spend some time down there, ’cause, Clay, once you see what’s going on which is just a hundred people walking over saying, “Hey, here we are! Bring us sandwiches and water! Where’s my medical care?”

People think that the border is like locked down. Oh, no. We’re really… Actually, most people don’t think that anymore, but they think that it’s this area that is well protected. Border Patrol is stretched all over the place. Humanitarian mission — they all say this: humanitarian mission — is way overshadowing their law enforcement sovereignty and national security mission, which is not really what they sign up for.

Yeah, of course our Border Patrol, folks — who, by the way, a large percentage of them are former military, a large percentage of them are Latino Americans. So when you hear this stuff, “Oh, Border Patrol, the whole thing is so racist.” A lot of veterans and a lot of Hispanic-Americans who are on the Border Patrol who are doing really important work and the media just slanders.

CLAY: I mean, look at what happened with the horse, I mean, the reins on the horse. I mean, it’s still, six months later and it is like they were whipping people. There hasn’t been any resolution.

BUCK: Remember they were saying “Abolish ICE” under the Trump administration? AOC went down and she was crying and the whole thing?

CLAY: Dressed in all white. Yeah, so ridiculous.

BUCK: TikTok stars are gonna be the dictators of the future. We’re all gonna be living in fear of the TikTok idiots every whims. But, anyway, so that’s one component of this. I guess… I was gonna say, we got Team Buck and Team Clay, Team C&B law enforcement. So many people listening to the show from law enforcement community, and I just feel like they see in this Biden budget that defund the police is moronic.

And it’s not moronic in general terms of, “Oh, I don’t like this. It’s annoying or frustrating,” like mask policy. I mean, I think it’s abusing and frustrating, but I’m not gonna say mask policy kills people, right? Defund the police rhetoric and progressive prosecutors and bail reform laws result in people dying. When you get this stuff wrong, people die.

The numbers speak to this. And, Clay, look at the Biden budget. I think it’s over $30 billion for law enforcement and law enforcement initiatives because they realize no one wants to feel… over half the country last year said — it’s about 51 or 52% according to the Gallup — they felt unsafe. That’s a disaster for the pro-criminal Democrats.

CLAY: And we keep hammering this because so many people will not address it or acknowledge it. If you look at the murder rate in this country which went up 29%, I believe, most recently, and is continuing to skyrocket in many places as we roll through 2022. The people who are dying are overwhelmingly in inner city neighborhoods, overwhelmingly black and Hispanic inner-city residents.

They are the people who bear the brunt of the defund police call because police are not being allowed to do their jobs. And what we are seeing is many people in the Democratic Party now, they see the numbers, and they’re just going to pretend that defund the police didn’t happen and that they didn’t demonize the police.

And as I’ve been saying since I started on this show, being concerned about being too punitive towards criminals say luxury of a low-crime era, and we no longer live in a low-crime era. We need to be concerned about punishing criminals and sending a message about what is and what is not acceptable. And right now, we aren’t. But even the Biden administration is recognizing the disaster that is their defund the police narrative that has come out of the Democrat Party and they’re abandoning it.

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