BUCK: As promised, our friend Allie Beth Stuckey is with us now. She is host of the podcast Relatable, author of You’re Not Enough, and a writer at WORLD Magazine. Allie, thanks for joining us.

STUCKEY: Yeah, thanks for having me.

BUCK: Can we start — ’cause obviously so much Biden administration imploding, inflation, abortion decision looming, we got all the we can talk to you about. But I just want to know, what are you hearing? You’re plugged into this community; you know what it’s like for the young moms out there. The baby formula shortage, I’m seeing people really freaked out the about this because what are they supposed to do?

STUCKEY: Yeah, this is terrifying in so many ways and I think a lot of people don’t even consider, you people friends with people who are foster parents who have recently adopted. I have friends who have kids who have special allergies and special needs that require them to have a certain kind of formula. This is an insanely impactful and pervasive problem. I mean, this is your worst nightmare if you are a mom who is trying to feed your child, to get your child the nutrients that it needs.

Bare minimum first prior as a mother is to take care of your child in this way. And you are literally helpless, especially if you are someone who maybe doesn’t have the means that others do. If you have lots of dollars laying around, you might be able to stockpile the formula if you can find it, or you can order some expensive brand overseas. But for working-class women, for the average woman, especially for a woman who is impoverished, it is almost getting impossible for them to feed their children. That is a very scary prospect.

CLAY: Allie, what are…? Thanks for coming on the show, by the way. What are moms being told — and dads — who have to go out to buy this formula. What are they being told about how long this shortage is going to last, how much worse it might get? I mean, this is alarming on an incredibly high level for anybody out there that has raised kids and has had to buy formula, as you mentioned, because this is one of those things that it’s hard to replicate with something else.

STUCKEY: Right.

CLAY: What are moms being told?

STUCKEY: Yeah, that’s part of the anxiety, right, is that they’re just kind of being told this vague answer, “supply chain issues,” which we could talk about all of the different possibilities and all of the different reasons causing that. Some of it also is a recall that happened at the Abbott labs. Unfortunately, there is contamination of some formula that led to the sickness of lots of babies and the death of two babies.

The ongoing shortage of baby formula has left this Las Vegas diaper bank feeling "helpless."

"It's a crisis situation right now." pic.twitter.com/eZeRKj7Z6m

— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) May 9, 2022

So that’s scary. So there’s just less formula in circulation, and they’re not being told any answer as to really why and then also when it’s going to end. There are suppliers or stores, like, Target, like CVS, like Walgreens saying that for the foreseeable future, they are just going to have to ration the formula. So I don’t have any answers. The Biden administration doesn’t seem to have any answers. The suppliers don’t seem to have any answers. I wish I could say there’s light at the end of the tunnel, but I just don’t have that kind of positive vision right now.

BUCK: Allie, we also want to ask you your thoughts on the situation of the Supreme Court justices who have lunatics shrieking at them from the front lawns of their private homes, their homes and an unwillingness, it seems, from most of the Democrat media, the White House just changed their position from, “Hey, people are upset, too bad,” to, “Okay, maybe don’t threat Supreme Court justices,” but this feels like a very combustible situation, and I think the unhinged and to some demonic components of the left are coming out for everyone to see.

STUCKEY: Yeah, 100%, and it’s not just the Supreme Court justices and young children of justices like Kavanaugh and Barrett that are being, you know, intimidated and threatened right now. We’re also talking about people with far less security and far fewer places to go like your Pregnancy Resource Centers. Unfortunately, we’ve seen on Twitter pictures of these resource centers being vandalized. These are clinics, these are centers that are helping women no matter what they ultimately decide to do with their pregnancy.

They are offering free pregnancy classes, free baby supplies, maternity clothes, all kinds of things. And, as you said, these demonic pro-abortion activists — for whatever reason — feel that they need to vandalize and in some cases burn down these clinics because they are so rabid and intent on seeing more babies murdered. And it really is sad, but you hope people see more than they ever have that this is really a light-versus-darkness dichotomy more than it is a political battle.

CLAY: Allie, I’m curious what you’re hearing from moms because I talked about this on the show on Thursday I was out with a group of couples a lot of different moms a variety of different political persuasions, and what I found was… I was just having a conversation with them about what their thoughts were on the Alito opinion leak. It’s amazing to me that people who are pro-choice define themselves very strongly pro-choice almost all of them that I talked to said, “Well, no.

“I would never support an abortion in the seventh, eighth, or ninth month of the pregnancy when the child is in many ways potentially able to survive outside of the womb,” and, similarly, people who said, “Hey, I’m a hundred percent pro-life,” obviously were okay with birth control> Everyone that I was talking with, they were okay with exceptions in the life of the mother certainly and incest and other things.

How much agreement — and this may be a surprise question, but it surprised me. There’s actually a ton of agreement on abortion. And now that every state has to make decisions, I think Democrats are going to find when you go into the specific details of abortion, there isn’t as much support for certainly all the way top nine-month pregnancy as they’re trying to argue through the media. Have you started to see those conversations take place maybe in a different way that the shift has gone from, “Should Roe v. Wade be the law of the land?” to, “Okay, what should abortion policy look like?” Because I’m kind of intrigued by the reactions and responses when you have those conversations.

STUCKEY: Well, you’re absolutely right, and putting my own opinions aside — I’m really as anti-abortion as you can get — the average American is extremely, what I would call, moderate on this issue. We’ll hear a lot of pro-choice activists say, “Well, the majority of people want women to have access to abortion. They support Roe v. Wade.” But also the reality is that most people don’t really understand what Roe v. Wade is.

They think that if Roe v. Wade is overturned then America is going to abolish abortion across the land. Most people in America do believe in exceptions even if they consider themselves pro-life — again putting my own personal opinions to the side, just typical of the average American. But as you mentioned, most Americans also believe that there should be restrictions, especially when you get into the second and third trimester.

And that really has been steady. I mean, the left has moved far left over the past 10 or 20 years for sure, but when it comes to abortion, the average American really has stayed the same in what they consider to be a good abortion policy. So if the left really cares about democracy as much as they say they do, if they really are so confident that Americans want access to abortion, then let’s put it up to a vote, which is exactly what would happen across the states, of course, if Roe v. Wade is overturned. It would be our democratic processes playing out in state legislatures.

BUCK: Allie, I feel like we’re making you our unofficial but semi-official mom whisperer here in real time —

STUCKEY: I’m up for it. (giggles) I’m up for it.

BUCK: — and that is with the school issue that we’ve seen and teaching of CRT and all of the back-and-forth at the school board meetings. Are you getting the sense that moms…? Se know moms were fired up. Right? That would be… We’ve seen that in Virginia. We’ve seen that in some key indicators, including in some elections, let’s call it six, seven months ago. But are they still fired up? Do you think that the shutdowns of schools for covid, the teaching of CRT, and now the teaching of the trans agenda might surprise some folks with how much that motivates parents, moms, but parents in general to show up at the polls in this midterm?

STUCKEY: Well, you can absolutly bet that’s exactly what the Democrats are trying to distract women and moms from using this abortion issue and trying to stoke rage around abortion. They’re trying to make them forget about what Democrats did to their children over the past couple years. I don’t think that it’s going to work. I don’t think abortion mobilizes independent or moderate women as much as they think that it does.

So I do think it’s an issue. I do think that the radicalism in school curriculum is going to be an issue. I think the economy, inflation, the lack of supplies — like baby formula — that moms are able to find, I think that that’s going to be far more mobilizing than the abortion issue for sure. And I think as the fall comes and as we see more school board meetings, that you are going to see that energy kind of re-up once again pick up.

But, look, it’s going to take a lot of work on the conservative side to make sure that that moms are still aware of that. Because look, there’s a lot of propaganda, especially… I like to say that white woman Instagram — especially progressive white woman Instagram — is, like, the biggest purveyor of political propaganda that exists. And so it’s gonna take a lot of effort to reach those memorandums and to educate and inform those moms to make sure they know what’s going on and why it matters. I think it’s possible, but it’s gonna take a lot of effort.

CLAY: Allie we agree: Suburban women hold the key to the 2022 and the 2024 elections. We can get you on again sometime soon. Appreciate it.

STUCKEY: Yeah. Thanks so much.

CLAY: That is Allie Beth Stuckey. Encourage you to check out her podcast, Relatable.