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Bill Belichick Touches Third Rail on Vaccine Truth

1 Sep 2021

BUCK: Cam Newton, released. I saw this story on a wonderful website called OutKick.com.

CLAY: (chuckling)

BUCK: Bill Belichick, on whether Cam Newton’s vaccination status was released. Here he is.

BELICHICK: No. Look, you guys keep talking about that. And, you know, I would just point out, that I don’t know what the number is. I mean, you guys can look it up. You guys have the access to a lot of information. But the number of players and coaches and staff members that have, you know, been affected by covid in this training camp, who have been vaccinated, is a pretty high number. So I wouldn’t lose sight of that.

BUCK: Clay, do you believe him, Belichick?

CLAY: Well, one, I’m stunned that he acknowledged that there’s lots of breakthrough cases going on in the NFL right now, ’cause they’re trying to pretend it’s not. I think Mac Jones, who won the National Championship with Alabama was just so good, that they decided that they didn’t want to force Cam Netwon to be the backup.

And I think that’s why he has hit the trail now and is a free agent. But let me just say this: The NFL and college football, which are both starting this week and next week, they got major covid issues with the way that they’re rolling out. They tried to make Covid Zero a thing, and it ain’t gonna happen.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

CLAY: Rochelle Walensky, the director of the CDC. I want to play cut 39 here. We hinted about this a little bit earlier here. The CDC is now saying if you’re unvaccinated, you shouldn’t be traveling — in their opinion — over Labor Day Weekend.

WALENSKY: Given where we are with disease, um, transmission right now. Um, we would say that, um, people need to take their own — take these risks into their own consideration, as they think about traveling. First and foremost, if you’re unvaccinated, um, we would recommend not traveling.

BUCK: Can we start just with 99% of the unvaccinated people that could possibly listen to this are not going to have covid this weekend, will not have covid.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: So you’re not allowed to live your life. You’re not allowed… This is what the CDC wants you to think. You should stay home. And you wonder about this. Okay. Unvaccinated people. Notice how, again — and, Clay, we say this a lot ubt it has to be said more. Because they won’t deal with this reality. She doesn’t say, “Unvaccinated people,” comma, “obviously, you people who already had covid, you have natural immunity. I’m not talking to you.”

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: By the way, what she’s saying to the unvaccinated people who haven’t had it is overreach and annoying. But she doesn’t even make an allowance for people who have natural immunity. So how can we think it’s rooted in the science at all? The people who say they follow does the science are authoritarian lunatics.

CLAY: Well, we were talking about Cam Newton. Sports again can be a window into our society. Cam Newton had covid. So the reason why he’s probably not getting vaccinated — I don’t know for sure, because I don’t think he’s addressed it. But he’s probably looking at the data and making the decision 27 times more protective than the vaccine.

BUCK: Some breaking news up on Fox News right now I want to share with you and everybody else. We’re awaiting a White House briefing, about it’s gonna be, blah, blah, Biden is brilliant.

CLAY: Yeah, yeah.

BUCK: He does 100 pushups every morning.

CLAY: Greatest success ever.

BUCK: He runs a three-minute mile. He cooks Minute Rice in 45 seconds. Right. Okay. Biden is great. But the FDA has just had two senior level resignations from people upset over the politics of the booster vaccine. That was just on Fox. “Conflict That FDA Over Booster Recommendation.” Clay. There is no way… I have spoken to friends of mine. I know people who have worked particularly in biotech hedge funds, where it’s all about whether you’re right or wrong.

So they have to know the FDA backwards and forward. I have a friend who spent time working in one of those places. They’re sharks. It’s all about getting it right. And they’ll short the stock. They’ll go long on the stock. But there’s no way that this FDA booster program is going through normal channels. How could it! How could they have run the trials? How could they know?

CLAY: Well, this is the question we started asking as soon as the story about the booster came out. “Can you think of any vaccine that has ever been given to adults that you have to get a booster shot within six to eight months of initially getting the vaccine itself?” And I think what people have to become aware of is, this is a never-ending — it would appear — series of flu shots, effectively, that we’re being really told, it’s actually a vaccine, like for smallpox or something.

BUCK: And you often talk about risk and understanding it. And that’s something we try to do here is explain life is not perfect. You don’t wear a helmet inside your car even though you could get a head injury. There’s a lot of things. When you talk about other vaccines, where there’s boosters. You go into your doctor’s office for a tetanus shot.

By the way, tetanus is very, very rare. Anyway, people are more worried about it. “Oh, I stepped on a nail!” It’s very bad if you get it. But it’s pretty rare. But you get a tetanus shot and ten years later, you’re getting a tetanus booster. But you know that going into it. They have lots of studies, lots of research.

CLAY: And ten years, by the way, is a long time.

BUCK: Long time, right.

CLAY: I think if we knew that you had to get covid booster shot in 10 years. Most people would be like, “Okay, I feel differently it.”

BUCK: Yeah, people would say, “Okay, I can see that.” They can’t even tell you, right now — as they’re telling you you need a booster already, eight months into this, and for some people, vaccination is very, very recent — they can’t tell you, if this will be even your last booster for the next 12 months, Clay.

And they can’t tell you what the additional consequences of using especially this new mRNA technology in your body is. Anyone who tells you three or four or five much these shots are totally fine and there’s no side-effect profile is lying to you. They don’t know.

CLAY: Yeah. And I also think, again, in Israel, which is ahead of the overall curve because they have such a huge percentage of their people vaccinated, they’re now are not counting you as fully vaccinated unless you had your third shot. So, Buck, I can’t wait until the vaccine fanatics out there turn on each other and start judging the two-shot vaccine people, who have not been fully vaccinated with the third shot.

BUCK: Oh yeah.

CLAY: There’s all these differences.

BUCK: Oh yeah. I’m just waiting for people to say, “Oh, I’m sorry. You got the J&J shot, and that’s the Spirt Airline of shots.”

CLAY: That’s a great line, by the way. (laughing) The Spirit Airlines of vaccines. (laughing)

BUCK: “You’re not considered vaccinated enough to go to the party. Not considered vaccinated enough to go to the restaurant.” Clay, I’m just going to say it: The Republican Party is not strong enough on this issue, and with very few exceptions, there’s not enough pushback. Governor Ron DeSantis is setting the standard, and I’m very happy with Abbott and what’s going on on the pro-life issue on Texas. And they’ve gotten better with the covid issue in Texas. But all we’re doing is ceding ground on this all the time.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: It’s always, “Just two weeks. Just two weeks,” over and over and over again, and we’re never gonna be able to buy them off with our liberty. They think that the more they can get, the safer we are. That’s the mentality.

CLAY: Which is why we need you out there to keep hammering with us what sharing, which is they’re trying to tell you that Ron DeSantis and Greg Abbott and Bill Lee and Governor Stitt in Oklahoma — all these different people out there, that have been aggressive in trying to protect your right to choose whether or not your child wears a mask. They are trying to say that you are fighting, right?

That this is some sort of Draconian government overreach. When the Democrat perspective is requiring you to do something, the Republican perspective is, “We believe in your freedom, to decide whether your child wears a mask or not.” If you believe masks work, by the way, for kids, you’re wrong. The data does not support it. But you have the right to put your kid in a mask.

BUCK: And they definitely work so well that it only works that everyone else around you is wearing it, until they’re not wearing it because they have juice and cookies time or lunch or whatever.

CLAY: Or recess, and they’re little kids and it’s impossible to keep the mask on their face because their kids.

BUCK: Clay, as you know, covid-19… When everyone pulls their masks to eat on a plane or in school, covid-19 is like, “Whoa, whoa. Hold up. We’re not going to infect people right now. That’s not fair.”

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: That’s how covid works. So I’m glad we’ve established that.

CLAY: Oh, that’s what covid did — according to the scientists — when the BLM protests were going on.

BUCK: #Science.

CLAY: If you were out there protesting in lockdowns, covid just showed up and they were like, “Man, we’ll infect people like crazy.”

BUCK: Yeah.

CLAY: But as soon as you were protesting BLM, they were like, “Oh, covid just made the decision, ‘Oh, this is such a worthy protest. I’m not going to infect anybody.”

BUCK: Oh, the virus was apparently putting up #BLM too.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: The virus was supportive and not infecting anybody at those protests.

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