Bezos and Musk Sound Just Like Us on Clueless Joe
17 May 2022
CLAY: Buck, I love doing this show. We have a lot of fun.
BUCK: We do have fun. Thatโs one thing that we do that I feel like a lot of radio shows just pound the table and that. We have fun.
CLAY: Yeah, we do have a really good time, and increasingly I love to see our talking points circulating through the media, even if theyโre not saying, โHey, this is an argument that Clay and Buck have been making, when I saw Jeff Bezos come out, Buck, and say basically what we have been saying, which is that Joe Manchin saved the Democrat Party from double-digit inflation, I thought that was a great argument for him to be making.
It evokes an argument weโve been making, which is a reasonable, rational analysis of what the data reflects and calling to account the party that has led us to the worst inflation in 40 years. And so this morning when I got up and I saw this quote start to circulate, I thought, this sounds a lot like Clay and Buck too. So, if Elon Musk and some of the people around him are listening to the show, we welcome you into the Clay and Buck family because we want as much sanity out there regardless of where itโs coming from. And this is Elon Musk saying basically the same thing weโve been saying for a while, which is whoever controls Joe Bidenโs teleprompter, it is a Ron Burgundy-level presidency. And if you donโt get that reference, Iโll explain it in a moment. But first here is Elon Musk talking about Joe Bidenโs incompetence.
.@ElonMusk: โItโs hard to tell what Bidenโs doing, to be frank. The real president is whoever controls the teleprompter โฆ The path to power is the path to the teleprompter โฆ If someone were to accidentally lean on the teleprompter, it would be like โAnchorman,โ โUUASDF123โโ pic.twitter.com/2qJKbaWXNr
โ Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) May 17, 2022
CLAY: And he then goes on to say itโs a Ron Burgundy presidency. Now, for those of you who donโt get that reference, one of Will Ferrellโs best roles ever was playing a San Diego-area 1970s I believe it was, Buck, local newsman, Ron Burgundy, and the conceit of the joke is, if you put in a teleprompter, Burgundy will read it. And itโs a really pretty fantastic, enjoyable movie, Anchorman. I think they made Anchorman 2, which Iโm not even โ
BUCK: I heard that was not so good.
CLAY: But this is a talking point that you and I have been embracing. I hope somebody like Elon Muskโs gonna start talking about the Weekend at Bernieโs presidency as well and the Weekend at Bernieโs II. But everyone is seeing this. And we even talked, Buck, was it last week or the week before about not only is it a teleprompter presidency, itโs like a full projection screen teleprompter โcause Joe Biden canโt even read a normal teleprompter. They canโt even use the Oval Office for him.
BUCK: I mean, Iโve referred to him as Mr. Magoo before, which I felt like some people, the younger folks, may not catch that. But thatโs an old cartoon about a guy basically, you know, is always confused andโฆ Did you ever see Mr. Magoo, the cartoon โ
CLAY: I donโt remember Mr. Magoo. I mean, I know the reference but, I donโt remember watching it a lot.
BUCK: You know, heโd walk up to a bulldozer and think itโs a cow. I mean, that was the old cartoon. Look. I remember early on the primary, this is one of those times that I was wrong but I was wrong for a good reason, and I think thatโs worth noting as we do a lot of analysis and things. Sometimes youโre wrong but youโre wrong for a reason that it illuminates something worthwhile anyway.
I assumed early on in the Democrat Party primary thereโs no way theyโre actually gonna make Joe Biden president. And that was because my assumption was, we can all see this guy is too old for the job. He was a mediocre politician at best. He was a last-minute add-on to the Obama administration so they could claim they had a steady hand in foreign policy or something.
But nobody cared. And Obama, you know, obviously could have had Hillary as the vice president but chose to have Joe Biden as the vice president. I mean, he could have switched it around if he had wanted to. And I think what weโve seen all throughout this is that I overestimated the Democratsโ seriousness as citizens voting for a guy that they should know isnโt up for this.
At the very beginning of the primary, I was like, itโs not gonna be Joe Biden becauseโฆ Obviously, I got that wrong. But as I look back at this, I realize that was because I thought that we were kind of operating in the same basic universe of reality. And they want to tell you that somehow this guy โ no one thinks heโs good at this job. I mean, I havenโt met a Democrat who will make a compelling case for Joe Biden as a good president.
They may like him better. Itโs always, โI like him better than Trump! Trump is a insurrectionist, white nationalist,โ all that stuff. There is nothing to point with Joe Biden that is impressive. Thereโs never been anything to point to with Joe Biden that is impressive. And I think that everything that we had anticipated, Clay, itโs all playing out exactly as we thought. Let me ask you this.
CLAY: Itโs worst. I think itโsโฆ Yes, you knew it was gonna be bad. I didnโt think it was gonna be this bad.
BUCK: Right. Has anythingโฆ? When we look at the border, at the border, the economy, everything thatโs going on right now, has anything surprised you where we are now versus what you would have expected in January of 2020? I feel like weโve been sitting here โ and I donโt just mean us. I mean the right, conservatives, you know, commentary in general, largely.
Not the ones that just attack conservatives on MSNBC for the amusement of libs, but people that actually care about the movement and the country, theyโve been saying this is whatโs gonna happen, and it has all happened. Everything from vaccine passports to inflation to a wide open border to the rise in violent crime all across the country. Itโs all played out exactly as we said. So itโs almost disorienting because youโre like, so weโre right about everything. How is there even a discussion here? This presidency is horrible!
CLAY: Yeah, and, by the way, the presidency would be even worse if Joe Biden had gotten what he wanted to its full fruition which I think is actually underdiscussed and underanalyzed. And this is the other thing that Elon Musk said, which is youโre seeing guys like Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk start to take potshots at Joe Biden. The point here is he has no idea how to solve inflation. And everything that heโs talking about doing would actually make inflation worse. Listen to Elon Musk, a guy who knows a little bit about how business and money works, analyze this.
BUCK: Can I say that the Venezuela example is particularly poignant here because not only is printing currency in excess. Remember, itโs underlying productivity that gives your currency value. And what we decided as a country โ and Iโm gonna say this. I understand itโs a pandemic year or whatever, but the whole shutdown, send people checks to stay home thing, was a bad idea.
CLAY: Yes.
BUCK: And it happened under Trump. Now, I met with President Trump in, what was it, June of 2020 and by that point he had already said, look, we didnโt know. Now we know. Weโre going in a different direction. So, you know, he deserves a little bit of criticism maybe, comparatively to the criticism that I think not just the Biden Democrats but also Fauci and the whole health apparatus gets. But, Clay, in Venezuela not only do they print a lot of money, price controls.
Thereโs been some really interesting analysis of what happened, because with inflation and also the prices start rising dramatically. They have lower productivity. It really creates a cyclone of economic deprivation. And they said, โWell, now, a washing machine instead of costing, you know, however manyโฆโ I think itโs bolivars, right? Instead of costing a thousand bolivars weโre gonna say it costs 500.
Well, then thereโs no washing machines in the stores. And then what the government there did was say, well, now the governmentโs going to actually seize some of the washing machine factories, and it just spirals down and down. And I bring it up because you have Elizabeth Warren saying we should have a commission to look at whether corporate profits right now are acceptable.
I mean, weโre actually talking about putting caps on profits. Itโs really not a big leap to start to talk about price controls because thatโs effectivelyโฆ If youโre saying that, you know, weโre gonna limit how much money you can make as a company, youโre gonna have to say weโre gonna limit how much you can charge for your services.
CLAY: No. I mean, it is an outlandish idea for anyone to be floating at this point in time. And that goes to my point, everything that the Democrats are trying to do right now would make things worse, which is, Buck, why we need to hold the line and not allow that to happen.
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