BUCK: The DHS memo on what are they gonna do about Title 42, it has finally come out, and I looked at this. I read it. It’s about 20-or-so pages, and I read through it this morning. Just to be clear, Joe Manchin is a Democrat — a centrist, conservative Democrat (if that’s a thing), but he’s a Democrat. Here’s what he says about Title 42 going away, just to give a sense of what the middle of the country thinks. Go ahead.

Sen. Joe Manchin on Title 42: “This is not a time to play politics. I know it’s a political season, but we truly have a crisis on our hands. The border is a crisis, and we’ve got to address that. […] We have to secure our borders. Our borders are not secure.” pic.twitter.com/3IIue57wTA

— The Hill (@thehill) April 27, 2022

BUCK: He’s partially right and partially wrong. He’s right that the border is a crisis and it’s not secure. He’s wrong that the 2013 bill was a good bill and that amnesty and the pathway… It’s not a pathway to citizenship, it’s a conveyor belt, and if you go back and look even at the Reagan amnesty of the eighties you’ll see. Everybody got the amnesty.

It was all of the rest of the stuff that didn’t actually happen. But that’s something we can talk more about another time. Clay, here’s what they’re doing. They’re surging resources, 600 Border Patrol personnel, and they’re going to be making the process — the actual processing of people — more efficient. In fact, they have a term that they use in this that I thought was particularly interesting.

“Expeditious adjudication.” Expeditious adjudication. This comes under the asylum office rule. This is all under DHS official guidance. They’re going to move this. We already know we got over a million people the last six months coming into the country, about 40% of them, free and clear in the United States.

They’re never gonna get deported unless they become violent felons or members of MS-13 and assassinate people, et cetera. They’re gonna be able to stay here forever. So 60… Some people are turned back, most under Title 42. They’re getting rid of Title 42, and the response that they are going to have now is to put more people at the border…

Including the acceleration of hearing of asylum claims under this asylum office rule so that now you’ll just have bureaucrats who aren’t judges who are like, “All right. You know what? I guess you get asylum.” They’re gonna make it easier for people to come into the country! They’re doing the exact wrong thing if they wanted a security border, if they wanted the illegal immigration flow to stop.

CLAY: And we already know that the conversation about Title 42 ending — even though Joe Biden doesn’t even seem to know what Title 42 is when he was questioned about it last week… When you hear immigrants who are being interviewed, people who are trying to illegally enter this country — when you hear them interviewed — they are all talking about Title 42 and how it’s going to make it easier to come into this country.

Which is why we’re going to see a surge the likes of which we’ve probably never seen in the history of this country at the southern border within about a month. The other thing here that I think is significant, Buck, and it’s part of a larger picture, Joe Biden is consistently taking actions that would not be supported by Congress even though he has a majority in the House and the Senate.

And let me explain what I mean by that. If you remember with the airplane mask mandate, a ton of senators broke from the Democratic Party — a ton relatively to these sort of bipolar times that we live in now — and seven Democratic senators (or eight, I believe) broke with the mask mandate on airplanes and voted against it.

Same thing happened with the fact that Biden could have never gotten the eviction moratorium passed through Congress. Congress, in fact, was opposed to it. Title 42 is the same, Buck. If Joe Biden tried to get this ending of Title 42 through the Senate and the House, it wouldn’t pass. So he is engaging in — in my opinion — unconstitutional actions and basically daring the courts to strike down these decisions.

Because the legislature would not support in implementing these new regulations. And so he’s trying to rely on the power of the presidency to, frankly at an unprecedented level even — and this is significant — while his party has control of Congress, which in theory would mean they would be more likely to actually support the Biden regime. This thing wouldn’t pass. Overwhelming numbers of Democrats would join Republicans and shoot it down, particularly in the Senate where you may be able to get 60 votes, a filibuster-proof majority against ending Title 42.

BUCK: It’s amazing, Clay, when you read the DHS guidance — remember, this is a memo to the rest of the federal government to let them know what the Biden policy is, right? So this is the template for how it’s gonna go. There’s all this language about, “We’re gonna be very strict on our immigration laws.” It’s just laughable. It’s not true. Anybody who works in Border Patrol would say that that’s absurd.

We’ve seen it. Remember the video we played here-of-members of Border Patrol almost in a kind of mutiny moment against the chief of Border Patrol, because he’s saying, “Look we’re trying,” the Biden administration? “We’re doing what we can with what we have,” and he’s just saying, “This is a joke, man! We can’t do or jobs people are flooding in from all over the place.”

You look at the numbers, you look at what they’re saying in the memo, and they’ll claim, “Oh, well, we’re repatriating a lot of people.” Thirty percent of the apprehensions they have are repeat entrants. They don’t even say how many times. They’re repeat entrants, meaning people that tried to come in illegally, were turned back, and are coming in illegally again.

Because the whole game is you only gotta get in once, right? You only gotta get in one time, and then you’re here. Another part that I thought is fascinating when you dig deeper into the numbers is how many people, once they’re here, even show up for their immigration hearing. It’s like 50%.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: How many of the people that they’re telling us are getting into the countries every month — it doesn’t even include the got-away number. Those are people free and clear in the U.S., violation of U.S. law, just run the U.S. Clay, they say it’s tens of thousands. I had one guy tell me he thinks they got about 100,000 got-aways coming into the country in a bad month.

I mean, the thing’s a total mess. Biden administration’s living in fantasyland. “We’re gonna have a secure border. We’re gonna be strict on the laws.” It’s like a joke but it’s unfunny, you know what I mean? It’s crazy.

CLAY: The question that I have, Buck, is you know that the media is obsessively covering the Ukraine border. Everybody is obsessed with Russia invading Ukraine. We’ve got an invasion going on on our southern border — and in a month, it is going to be more of an invasion than we have ever seen in terms of raw numbers. Will that lead…?

This is just a question that I’m curious about: Will that lead anybody other than Fox News to cover it? Will there be CNN reporters at the border? Will there be MSNBC reporters at the border with the Washington Post, the New York Times? Will any of these places do it? I suggested this to Fox News where I’m employed, obviously, as a part of OutKick‘s purchase.

I said, “Hey, we need to put a tracker,” since trackers are such big deals, “in the corner of our screen for the numbers of illegals that are coming across every day, just like they had the covid infections.” I really think if Fox News — and the challenge is getting accurate enough data to be able to do it.

But if Fox News was willing, in the corner of their screen, to put in a daily tracker of illegal immigrants coming across the southern border, I think it would become almost impossible for the rest of media to ignore as well.

BUCK: I would also just tell everybody that it’s so important that we continue to talk about this and that there’s an awareness of it because I think the Democrats are planning to largely try to hide the visuals of the flow when Title 42 expires. That’s why… They’re surging people not to stop it. The fundamental problem is the Democrats don’t want to stop illegal immigration.

They don’t want to be held responsible for illegal immigration by voters. That’s a different thing, right? The Democrat Party is not opposed to illegal immigration ideologically. We all know it, and so I think you have to change that component of it. You have to change that — and also, at a time when people are struggling to pay for gas for groceries, they’re realizing that things are rough right now, 8.5% inflation.

Democrats are always pushing for not just some free stuff, as much free stuff for illegal immigrants as possible. So people are coming in the country in violation of law — not paying any taxes, just coming in here doing whatever they want to do — and they’re supposed to get in-state tuition, Obamacare, you name it. Go down the list, everything, right? Free housing, free food.

People realize it at some level, and all across the board. Latino Americans, black Americans, white Americans, everyone realizes that the systematic violation of our laws and really theft from the American taxpayer that’s occurring here is a problem, ad I think that’s gonna be an issue for them.

CLAY: And it’s gonna be worse than it’s ever been before during the course of the next month and into the summer.

BUCK: Everyone expects it to be. Even the Democrats. No one who pays attention, Clay, thinks anything other than that. So we’ll have to see. We will follow it closely, I assure you.