Ivy League Man Sets Womenโs Swimming Record
7 Dec 2021
CLAY: This kind of makes me laugh โcause itโs absurdly ridiculous โ and, unfortunately, it is where these policies on gender being a choice lead us, particularly in the world of sports. There is right now a University of Pennsylvania swimmer โ and I touched on this a little bit on Friday, but then this swimmer went and performed in a meet over the weekend and set all sorts of new crazy records.
So, at the University of Pennsylvania, there was a male swimmer who was on the team for three years and was really good, Buck, like an all-Ivy League caliber male swimmer. Then this swimmer decides to identify as a woman, gets estrogen treatments, or whatever it is, to fulfill NCAA rules for a year, and now is competing on the University of Pennsylvania womenโs team. This is not a made-up story. This is not an Onion headline.
This is not some sort of crazy, outlandish, โthis canโt be trueโ story. This is really going on in the Ivy League. Three years a male swimmer at an elite level for an Ivy League school University of Pennsylvania decides to change gender and is now swimming as a woman โ and, Buck, over the weekend won the 1650 by 38 seconds, this man did, who is now swimming as a woman. By 38 seconds!
And then also in a 500 meter race, won by nearly 15 seconds on pace for all-time records in NCAA races, this UPenn swimmer, a man who identifies as a woman. Now, this is an interesting part of this story, Buck. We have written about this at OutKick, the website that I run, a voice for sanity in the world of sports very often, OutKick.com. You can check it out.
After we wrote about it at OutKick and after this story was widely shared on the internet over the weekend and early part of this week, several different swimming coaches and also several different swimmers in the world of womenโs swimming have reached out. They are terrified to use their actual names because of being called transphobic.
But they are saying what I think many of you listening right now are saying, this represents the destruction of womenโs sports. You have all of these women, biological women who have trained their entire lives to compete at a high level โ and suddenly a biological man is crushing them, and theyโre afraid to speak out. Your thoughts, Buck Sexton.
BUCK: Well, this is interesting because Iโve been doing talk radio now, conservative talk radio for 10 years, and I remember a decade ago talking about how it was just a matter of time, early on in the LGBTQ trans movement, right?
CLAY: Yes.
BUCK: It was just a matter of time before you would have the bathroom policies, the athletes competing against the people of different genders. I even said, โWhat about Mixed Martial Arts fighters?โ and then there was a Mixed Martial Arts fighter who was biological male and was destroying women. It was horrible to watching, not even close when this former MMA fighter is fighting women in the ring.
And then also in prison now, increasingly, thereโs a movement to take trans females โ who are biological males โ and put them in womenโs prisons or womenโs jail facilities. And all the things that, Clay, we brought up to say, this is the logical terminus of the leftistsโ insanity. This is where itโs going. They said, โyouโre fearmongering, no oneโs going to do that, that will never happen.โ
But one hundred percent, the nature of the left argument, you know that of course thatโs where itโs going. So, this is where we are now. This is essentially the eradication of womenโs achievements in sports before our very eyes. People who have spent countless hours, blood, sweat, and tears trying to be the best they can at their sport, whatโs even the point now?
You have to wonder how long before all of the womenโs records in different sports at the NCAA level, even at the professional level, are held by biological males? Itโs not very long before thatโs gonna happen at the current rate. And so thatโs one big part of it. And the other part of it for me is I just think itโs so interesting that, there was this moment in time where people would still refuseโฆ
We are all now using the language of the left on this, and I find that very troublesome. What I mean is, you turn on news channels and everyoneโs saying โshe.โ Now, I believeโฆ You know, my first name is James, in case anybody doesnโt know. My middle name is Buck, and Iโve been called Buck since I was a baby. My point being on that your name is whatever you want it to be, right?
If somebody wants to be calledโฆ You know, if they change their name to Darth Vader legally, Iโm gonna call them Darth Vader. Whatever your name is, Iโll call you, right? Gender is a biological reality, and part of the movement of the LGBTQ effort has been, and what the left has wanted, is for people to really be a party to a lie here. To the point where, even the New York Times โ which is a left-wing rag, but the New York Times โ has had to have discussions internally about whether the plural usage โtheyโ for individuals.
Even if it seems nice it is just so grammatically problematic because youโre not multiple people, so itโs confusing to the reader. We are now at a point where itโs gone so far that, Clay, everyone I see in the news, โThis is a male. This is a male.โ We can say โa transgender femaleโ if you want. It is not a female. This is a biological male. And weโre all saying โsheโ and โsheโs doing thisโ and all.
Why? I mean, I donโt think that pronoun is an issue of preference. I think pronoun is an issue of biological reality, and weโre making a concession. This is all over the place, by the way. Iโm sure Iโve done it, too, even unwittingly the same way that occasionally youโll say, โWait, the undocumented? Oh, my gosh. I donโt want to say โundocumentedโ because itโs everywhere now.โ
CLAY: My big thing is just you canโt allow this to happen, and Iโve been on this for years as well, and itโs so clear that men are bigger, stronger, and faster than women. This is why we divided menโs and womenโs sports hundreds of years ago, because if men competed against women and we had a unisex competition, women would never win anything. And thatโs not me trying to demean all female athletes. I love athletics, period. But if we just had basketball, and we didnโt have menโs and womenโs basketball, no woman would mostly ever even make a high school basketball team. Right?
BUCK: Clay, the best menโs 16-year-old soccer team annihilated the womenโs national Olympic team. Annihilated them. It was a joke.
CLAY: Thatโs right. There would be no womenโs soccer, there would be no womenโs tennis, there would be no womenโs track and field. At the Olympics, there would only be male medalists, pretty much. There might be some woman who is a great โ
BUCK: Ice skating.
CLAY: โ shooter โ
BUCK: Ice skating, you know.
CLAY: I think you wouldโฆ Depends on how you define ice skating, right? Because they have womenโs ice skating. Male ice skaters are really good, to my understanding, too.
BUCK: Youโre right, actually. Maybe the artistry, though, would push them over the top.
CLAY: Maybe the artistry, but I thinkโฆ I mean, my wife was a gymnast. But men are able to jump bigger, higher, faster, in terms of doing all of the things that women do as well, even in gymnastics. So, my point here is, if you are going to allow biological men to compete against women, then you are destroying the entire fabric of womenโs athletics.
So, Buck, what I find to be most disappointing about this entire process is, almost no one is willing to have this conversation, and all these female swimmers who are getting crushed by this biological man who has decided to identify as a woman, almost all of them are terrified to even speak out. The coaches are afraid theyโll lose their jobs. The women, who are 19, 20, 21 years old, are afraid that they will never be able to get a job because theyโll get branded as transphobic if they speak out.
BUCK: Which now for folksโฆ I know this might sound crazy, but in the more liberal corridors of the country, to be transphobic is right alongside being racist and you are an untouchable.
CLAY: Thatโs right.
BUCK: You are someone who cannotโฆ It is a liability to even have you around, certainly as part of a corporation, certainly as part of a workforce. So, yeah, if youโre an Ivy League swimmer and youโre looking to get that job at Goldman Sachs or some hedge fund or some law firm or whatever, transphobic is the end.
CLAY: The kiss of death.
BUCK: Thatโs the end of it for you, yeah.
CLAY: And to how do you reconcile this? I think itโs such a big conversation, because itโs spreading down to the high school ranks. And some people say, โWell, this is not a big deal because women also compete against men.โ Yeah, but they never win. Women who decide to change and become men and compete against male athletes โ
BUCK: They donโt destroy accomplishments. They get annihilated and then they donโt want to play the sport anymore against the men. This is destroying womenโs achievement. Whatโs amazing is that the feminists are quiet on this because the feminists are actually just leftists trying to kick at the load-bearing walls of American civilization.
Thatโs a quick way of putting it. But, Clay, I think this only goes away when enough people are so sickened by it and just find it to be detestable that thereโs a public outcry against it, but I think weโre a long way away. There are gonna have to have a lot of womenโs records destroyed, and theyโll have to be a movement to say, โYou know, sorry, weโre gonna take the names off trophies for the best womenโs 500-meter, 800-meter whatever, that are actually men.
โWeโre not gonna allow this,โ and thatโs years away, I think, โcause people are soโฆ Look at what we see all over the country. Thereโs so much conformity. Everyoneโs just carrying around the little propaganda machines with their phone in their pocket all the time. And theyโre also so scared of their friends, and everyoneโs so terrified of being told that theyโre not a part of the smart, cool herd.
CLAY: Unfortunately, I think thatโs true โ and, man, I donโt know how itโs gonna end. I think womenโs athletics is gonna be under a fundamental, an existential assault before this comes to a real head.
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