CLAY: We just had a real, I think, nuanced, intelligent discussion about how to respond to Highland Park. Kamala Harris, she went to Highland Park; she had a lot to say. Listen.

Kamala Harris: “We got to take this stuff seriously, as seriously as you are because you have been forced to have take this seriously” pic.twitter.com/pp6Y2nP3Cm

— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) July 6, 2022

CLAY: If you couldn’t hear that audio necessarily fantastically well, she used the word “seriously” there off the top about eight times, and I’m not claiming that either Buck or I are perfect wordsmiths when it comes to speaking on a daily basis. But, Buck, if you or I were talking to the media as frequently and Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are, do you have any doubt that we would be infinitely better at speaking to the media on all of these issues than they are?

I just can’t believe how atrocious in particular Kamala Harris is, ‘cause at least you can point to Joe Biden and say, “Hey, I don’t think we do a poor job speaking now, but we’re relatively young guys relative to politicians’ ages. If we were 80, I don’t know that we’d be great at it.” But Kamala (laughing) is so bad at her job, which is communication. They’re really legitimately atrocious at speaking to the American public.

BUCK: It’s remarkable how much incompetence there is in this White House. I remember it was very different early on when I had left the CIA and was doing media stuff over at The Blaze. Glenn Beck started my career over at TheBlaze.com, and we were covering the Obama administration — this is 2011 — and it was always, “Man…” You had some of these people like White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel, for example. Nobody was saying — no one thought – -Rahm Emanuel was an idiot.

CLAY: Yeah, right.

BUCK: Rahm Emanuel was cunning, he was ruthless. No one thought he was dumb, you know. I’ve said this about Obama. Obama wasn’t dumb. I just disagreed with —

CLAY: Obama’s very smart.

BUCK: — him strenuously —

CLAY: You don’t end up the editor of the Harvard Law Review and fake your way there. You have to be a very smart guy to get there.

BUCK: Just the point here, we don’t do… What the Democrats do is, “Everybody I disagree with is so dumb.” We don’t do that. We’re not saying that. I bring that up as a preamble here because a lot of the people in the Biden administration are really dumb, okay? It’s just the truth. And I know it seems so simplistic. But this is… You have people who this is not even their A-Team for the Democrats.

I think you have a lot of folks who realized that this was probably gonna be a very difficult presidency to prop up, and a lot of the smarter people went with some of the other younger, more inspiring candidates early on in the campaign and maybe they were boxed out of Biden world. But just… You look at this, and Kamala… Who is supposed to be the messenger for this administration that anybody has any faith in, even Democrats? The answer is I don’t know. I don’t think there is one.

CLAY: This is a problem when checking a box, “cosmetic diversity,” is a huge part of how you fill out your administration. And that’s what Joe Biden did. He’s an old white guy. He’s afraid of being a target for being an old white guy, and so he zealously looked, not towards the individual talents of the members of his cabinet, but to make sure that they all fulfilled some form of cosmetic diversity. Nothing is a better example of that than his vice president, than Mayor Pete. You just run down the list, Buck. We said earlier: There’s no one that I trust to be competent in this entire administration.

BUCK: Do you think, though, they’re gonna be able to make this seamless transition to, “Forget about Trump, Ron DeSantis is the scariest person in the history of the republic! Ron DeSantis is gonna bring it all crashing down!” ‘Cause they’re already starting.