BUCK: Uh-oh. Welcome back to Clay and Buck.
BUCK: Former president Trump. If they’re not gonna get him for “seditious conspiracy,” “misgendering” could also be a crime — a high crime and misdemeanor — they go after Trump for. Notice on the one hand you have the former president saying, “Yeah, we shouldn’t have men playing in women’s sports,” and then on the other side of the aisle you have Kamala Harris deciding that at the beginning of a meeting, she needs to tell everybody the following.
BUCK: “I am Kamala Harris. My pronouns are she and her.” That’s the vice president there, announcing pronouns. By the way, big mask on her face. Gotta make sure you’re masked up now, apparently. Joe Biden’s speaking today; tested negative for covid. He’s fine, everybody, exactly as we said he… When I say he’s fine, we knew he was gonna be okay in the grand scheme of things. But he wasn’t really sick. He had a cold! It was a huge national news story that he had a cold. But, anyway, Clay, in the contest between men shouldn’t play in women’s sports the NCAA or pro versus, “Hi. I’m the vice president, here are my pronouns,” I think the American people are very solidly on one side of this.
CLAY: I have made the argument consistently, and I’m just gonna keep hammering it home, Buck, because there are so many people that listen to this show that work in Senate campaigns, that work in congressional governor’s campaigns — and also, the candidates themselves sometimes are listening as they’re outer campaigning. You can win every purple-state election, every one where it’s a toss-up by just arguing two things: “One: Men can’t get pregnant,” and try to get your Democrat opponent to be willing to say it. None them will say it.
And the other one is, men shouldn’t compete against women in women’s sports. Democrats won’t argue either of those things with you. They will pretend that the question doesn’t exist. So if you’re out there and you are in a candidate debate, just continue to drive home that question: Can men get pregnant? They will not answer that question! Should men be able to compete against women like we just saw in the Lia Thomas situation where you have an NCAA champion who is a man.
They won’t answer those questions, and I understand there are way more difficult and complex and integral questions that may go into your campaign. But, Buck, the essence of the battle between Republicans and Democrats — sanity and insanity — is summed up by that question: Can men get pregnant and should men be able to compete against women? Every single person understands it, and to your point, overwhelmingly is on the side of, “Hey, men can’t get pregnant, and men and women’s sports should be different.”
CLAY: They all know. They all know it’s a lie.
BUCK: But they won’t do it. They won’t cross the activists, the donor class, and the vanguard of the Democrat left that is effectively running their party now. It’s hijacked the party and is now calling the shots. So they understand that that’s not a risk that they are willing to take, even if it means it politically causes problems for them. So that’s why I would love to see — I mean, we were talking about this in general’ we’ve been pushing this. Herschel Walker it his first opportunity should ask the reverend “Raphael Warnock,” Reverend! “Do you think that men can get pregnant? And let’s hear the answer. Dr. Oz in Pennsylvania should ask Fetterman, “Sir, do you believe that men — sorry to guess you’re a sir; I guess you haven’t announced your pronouns — do you believe that men can get pregnant?” See what the answer is. A lot of them will be evasive.
CLAY: Yes.
BUCK: They will try to evade, but they will not say, “Only women can get pregnant.” They won’t do it.
CLAY: It’s all you have to do. Herschel Walker I saw is with right now hanging out with Brian Kilmeade. They had an interview with him this morning on Fox & Friends. I was in studio; I was watching it. They’re down in Gainesville, Georgia, spending the day with Herschel Walker. You need to make it a “yes” or “no” question, and you can even give your answer beforehand. “I don’t believe men can get pregnant. Reverend Warnock, do you believe men can get pregnant? Yes or no.”
And to your point, you will get an evasive answer. But when you have that clip of you just saying yes or no, this is not a complex scientific question. This is really easy for everybody out there. The voters overwhelmingly in Georgia, the voters overwhelmingly in Pennsylvania, Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin — everywhere where there are going to be battleground Senate elections which decide who controls the top chamber in Congress — that will decide this election if you just lean on it and make Democrats answer that question.
BUCK: We are not a free people in a free society if the dictates of the party are that we all have to say that the sky is red or water is not wet.
CLAY: (chuckles)
BUCK: We cannot allow ourselves to be a country where the party, the apparatus can force you to say things that are the most obvious and the most obviously untrue.
CLAY: Yes.
BUCK: If we concede on this, you’re giving away a fundamental part of what it means… You’re essentially giving up your right to think freely and to believe in truth. Truth is only what is fed you, which is so interesting because you may have seen… We didn’t play it yesterday. We did have the clip. I think we can find it. The prime minister of New Zealand… Did you see this?
CLAY: Yes, I saw —
BUCK: She’s like, “Truth comes from us,” and you’re like, “Wait a second. The only truth?” She’s like, “If you don’t hear it from us, it’s not the truth.!” You’ve got her clip? If you find it yesterday, we’ll play it. But that really is the mentality now, all these massive bureaucracies and these government bodies, that they can determine not only what truth is on complicated issues for everybody, which, of course, they’re often wrong as we saw during covid, almost always wrong, but that the opposite of what you believe truth to be is what you actually have to affirm. And that’s what the “men can get pregnant” thing is all about.
CLAY: A hundred percent. Particularly, Buck, to combine it with the Democrats tried to argue to all of us for the past couple of years, “We are the party of science!” Remember that was what they would trot out anytime somebody like you or me said, “Hey, I don’t know if we should lock down. I don’t know if masks make sense. The data don’t support it.” They would immediately try to shoot you down. Remember, Dr. Fauci memorably said, “I am the science,” which is chilling the same way that Jacinda Ardern’s comments down in New Zealand were. But when the “party of science” can’t even say men can’t get pregnant, it’s kind of a big deal.
BUCK: Somebody should ask Fauci. My old friends Hill TV, Robby Soave and some others, had an interview with Fauci recently. I don’t know if he’ll do that show again soon. But… I launched that show years ago.
CLAY: Good for you.
BUCK: It was… Yeah. It’s doing very well now. But I want them to ask Fauci.
CLAY: I’d love somebody to ask.
BUCK: “Can men get pregnant?” He’ll be like, “It all depends on the mitigation measures.”
CLAY: Congregate settings!
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