CLAY: Buck, I feel like Disney completely and totally lost its mind over the bill that had been signed in Florida to allow kindergarteners, first graders, second graders, and third graders not to be instructed about sex-related issues. And Disney we talked about earlier this week came out with a statement slamming the state of Florida and saying they were gonna try to repeal this bill, and Ron DeSantis obviously fired back about that yesterday.
But I want to play some of these clips from high-ranking Disney executives, and I want everyone out there to think about this. The foremost company in the world when it comes to entertaining children is in an uproar over a bill that does not allow kindergarteners, first graders, second graders, or third graders to be taught about sex-related issues.
By the way, the vast majority of American parents agree with this Florida bill. But, Buck, it really kind of gets summed up here. Disney has banned… For those of you — and I grew up going to Disney World. This is what my parents loved to do. We would stay in the campground at Fort Wilderness. For anybody out there who is familiar with Disney World, that was where we went on our family vacations.
We would stay in the campground. We had an amazing time. As part of many of their celebrations, they often would say, “Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,” in an effort to speak to everyone who was inside of the park. These insane people at Disney have decided that using the words “ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls” is not gender inclusive enough.
And so they have banned the usage of “ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls” inside of the park, and I want to play some of this for you. First of all, here is Ron DeSantis, who we had dinner with last night, what he said about what Disney’s response to this bill has been. Listen.
BUCK: Clay, could we just review what’s happened in the last couple of weeks that’s taken us to this point, just so everyone’s clear?
CLAY: Yeah.
BUCK: LGBTQIA+ activists.
CLAY: Good job on that, by the way.
BUCK: Thank you.
CLAY: I don’t think I could have nailed that.
BUCK: That’s the real acronym, okay? LGBTQIA+, activists, decided to rename a bill that is very clear in its language about not having kindergarten through third grade students instructed in gender identity and sexuality and matters that pertain to that. That is what it says. The activists renamed it the “don’t say gay” bill.
For them, all of a sudden not teaching kindergarteners about gender identity and sex — let’s just be honest: about sex and procreation and all these things — that is an assault, according to the activists, on the LGBTQIA+ community. And then we said, “Hold on a second. It’s one thing that Disney stands up and says they’re going to virtue signal on this and the Disney executives,” but this went… and hat tip Chris Rufo who finds so much this have stuff out there.
The training about critical race theory and the training in gender theory, gender identity at corporations, and if you go against this stuff, just so everybody understands — I mean, if you’re a Disney employee, let’s say, and you speak out against this — they’ll call you a bigot. They’ll probably fire you, right? So this is the world we are living in now.
Here is Disney president Karey Burke, who is saying that she wants — now, she’s the president of content, Clay; she gets to determine what gets made at Disney as a movie, as a TV show, saying that she wants — more LGBTQIA+ characters. Up to 50% in the next year, lead characters must be from that community. Play clip one.
BUCK: So she’s upset, Clay… I mean, think about this. She’s upset that there aren’t enough… I remember when using the Q-word was not allowed. But now it’s a word that we do use ’cause it’s in the acronym. That’s the Q in the LGBTQIA+. So she says, “We don’t have enough queer leads.” That’s one thing. This is for Disney content, folks — just remember that — for your kids.
CLAY: Yes.
BUCK: This is cartoons for your kids to watch, mostly — and on the other end, notice she starts out and says she’s “the parent of two queer children,” I believe she says a “transgender and pansexual child.” Now, maybe she means adults children. That’s not clear, to be fair to what she says. How many people listening to this said, “Pansexual?”
CLAY: I have no idea. I know what a transgender person is, and I do think it’s important. I would like to know how old her kids are because when she says “kids,” some people talk about their kids and they’re 30, you know, like ’cause they’re still their kids. What is a pansexual? I’m not even kidding, Buck. I have no idea what a pansexual is.
BUCK: So I got… I’m getting attacked by the blue-haired, masked-in-their-Twitter-photos mafia of the left on this issue, ’cause I just pointed out basically nobody knows what this is. It’s a term that has almost never been used. They’ll say it goes back to psychiatry in the early/mid-twentieth century. Pansexual as opposed to bisexual. Bisexual is pretty straightforward, somebody who’s attracted to men and women.
CLAY: Like guys and women still exist.
BUCK: Well, see, here’s the thing. They’ve responded “pansexual” means irrespective of whether somebody actually is “gender conforming,” i.e., if someone is not actually male or female somehow, you are still attracted to that person; you are attracted to all people irrespective of where they fall on the dozens of gender and pronoun options that are out there now.
So it’s basically saying, “I’m an all-of-the-above approach, including nongender conforming people.” Now, to those listening to this saying, “Hold on a second. There really are…” I mean, it’s one thing to say you can be trans, right, go from one gender to the other. But there really are actually two genders. There’s male; there’s female.
CLAY: I saw a quote from… I’m not sure who said it, but I know that there are a lot of Disney people. And let’s be clear, by the way. There are a lot of Disney employees who roundly reject — probably the majority of them, maybe even the vast majority of them — all of this. Right? The idea that Disney needs to be a hyperpolitical organization, that the president of Disney needs to be saying that her pansexual children need to be reflected in cartoons that your kids are watching.
This is, by the way, crazy, and Walt Disney himself would be rolling over in his grave if he saw what his company was coming to represent now, and this is… I gotta give credit. We had Jordan Peterson on a while ago. But what he said and has continued to say for years has been so prescient, because we’ve got a lot of people who own businesses.
When you let these “diversity and inclusion” imbeciles into your company with the idea being that they are going to strengthen your company, you don’t understand that you are effectively… This is the Trojan War. You are letting them into your company, and they are going to destroy it, and they are going to destroy you. This is what’s happening inside of Disney. This is the Trojan War. They are saying, “Hey, you’ve gotta have more diversity and inclusion.”
BUCK: The Trojan Horse in the Trojan War.
CLAY: Yes. They are getting inside of the companies, and they are destroying them from the inside. That’s what’s happening to Disney right now.
BUCK: Their goal, the D&I, Diversity and Inclusion training and all this — and this ideology of the left that’s being infused through corporations like Disney and Google and Facebook and Netflix —
CLAY: Everywhere.
BUCK: — and Goldman Sachs, by the way —
CLAY: Everywhere.
BUCK: — and Cravath! That’s a top law firm in New York, pretty famous law firm for the legal folks out there.
CLAY: Yes.
BUCK: You know, these places are also the “announce their pronouns” places now in emails and in meetings. You know, “My name is John. My pronouns are he/him.” This is what’s going on all over the place. They bring this in under the rubric of inclusiveness and everyone feeling comfortable and everyone being okay.
And then when you say, “Hold on. I actually don’t think that my toddler should be watching a movie that is delving into or cartoon that’s delving into the pansexuality of a character. I don’t think they’re ready for that,” you’re a bigot. Maybe you should be fired! Maybe you should lose your job and be run out of society because you’re so hateful.
That is their mentality. They’re not looking to educate people and bring other people in and have a… It’s not about a conversation. It’s a lecture. And that’s what Ron DeSantis from Florida has understood here from the beginning of this fight. They’re not looking to have everyone should be treated with dignity and decency. We’re nice guys, Clay. We advocate for everybody to be nice and fair and kind to people. This is about, though, what is true, and it’s about what’s true for your kids. It’s about what’s true for your children.
BUCK: Yeah.
CLAY: We’re not talking about some random, low-level employee who’s protesting in Disney and making her own or his own videos. We’re talking about somebody who decides what shows are made at Disney.
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BUCK: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, thank you for listening to the Clay and Buck show. You won’t hear that first part at Disney anymore, though — that’s for sure — because they’ve told us that you will no longer hear that because it is triggering; it is “gender normative.” Remember, you have to learn a whole new language, never mind a whole new sense of sexual attraction, gender identity and all these things, or else you’re a bigot.
CLAY: Yes.
BUCK: They don’t want to teach. They’re not trying to teach you. They’re saying, “This is the new reality. Shut up and celebrate it or else,” and here, for example, is another senior Walt Disney Corp. official saying why they got rid of “ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls” or whatever the official Disney phrase is. Am I getting it right?
CLAY: “Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.” They’ve been doing it before big events at Disney for 50 years, probably, as long as Disneyland and Disney World have existed. They first did away with “ladies and gentlemen” because that was not inclusive enough.
BUCK: Now it has to be “Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, plus non-cisgender, nongender, binary conforming, heteronormative, and nonheteronormative, pansexual, open, and transgender-affirming individuals, thanks for coming to Disney World.” Here’s the lady, actually… Uh-oh! I think I said “lady.”
CLAY: Yeah.
BUCK: Clay, I’m making a big assumption there, and I am really seriously I’m putting here into a gender box, gender normative. Sorry. I should… I’m gonna put a dollar into the gender-normative jar. Here we go. Play the clip, please.
CLAY: I really don’t know at this point, Buck, what are you called if you don’t identify as a man or a woman? Are you allowed to be an amorphous being somewhere in between? I mean this honestly, because even the transgender universe, that is about acknowledging that you’re a man or a woman, right? You may feel like you’re a man, but you’re a woman or whatever.
I think all this stuff is crazy. But are there now lots of people that are refusing to say whether they are a man or a woman, like they’re in some amorphous nether region between the two or outside of the two? Like, who are the people that are not…? Like, what percentage of Americans or global citizens are not willing to acknowledge that they are a man or a woman? Like, they’re somewhere else in between?
BUCK: I don’t know, Clay, but there are a lot of people with blue hair on Twitter who voted for Biden who are literally shaking right now.
CLAY: (chuckles) By the way, did you see…? Speaking of literally shaking, did you see that Amy Schumer is still unable to recover from the Will Smith slap?
BUCK: She’s the real victim, Clay.
CLAY: She is the real victim. I don’t know whether she’s a man or a woman. She may not know.
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