BUCK: There’s a big question right now, why all these news stories about Hunter Biden, the Biden family, the obvious corruption, tax evasion, possible money laundering, a lot of stuff right now that’s all come out, the verification of laptop. Although we all knew it was real, but they’re pretending, “We verified it,” all of this. Why would they do this now?

Well, I would want to point out to you that Rush himself, of course — the man who created this fantastic audience that has now been entrusted us to continue to fight with. Rush himself said just a couple years ago that if it is going to be Biden who at some point is going to be pushed out, there’s a reason for it and this is how it will go.

RUSH: I’m gonna tell you, folks, I think we’re seeing enough information on the Bidens now to safely say that Biden will serve at the pleasure of Barack Obama. If Obama gives the green light to Democrats to take Biden out, there will be ample evidence that Biden has lied about his knowledge, his family was selling his name and office with his permission.

And if that’s in fact the case, then there’s likely unreported money that will be found. The fake news media will temporarily become hard news media if the decision is made that Biden has to step down. Until that time, they will be covering for Biden, they’ll be making excuses for Biden, they’ll be ignoring all the negatives. You wait and see. And then watch what happens to their ratings when that happens.

BUCK: He nailed it, Clay. That’s October of 2020, and that feels exactly like what’s going on right now.

CLAY: Yeah. I think the one difference is that I would amend a bit here is I don’t think they want him to step down because I don’t think they want Kamala in as VP. I think what this is suddenly designed to do is guarantee that he’s not gonna run in 2024.

BUCK: Well, that’s what I mean. Okay, fair point. That’s the edit to it. But they’re no longer all-in on Biden is the point, and suddenly they’ve decided, the apparatus has decided that’s where we are.

CLAY: A hundred percent. And I think the one difference is, Kamala’s been so much worse than I think anybody could have foreseen. I don’t think there’s very many people out there who would say, “Hey, you know what I anticipated?” I anticipated — I think a lot of you did and we did — that Biden would be bad as president. I didn’t anticipate that Kamala Harris would be worse as vice president, right?

As bad as Biden has been, the expectation was he’s gonna be out of sorts, he’s gonna be out of his mind, the dementia is gonna continue to get worse, and they will elevate Kamala Harris; that’s the goal. I don’t think that’s the goal anymore. I don’t think they want to let her be in office running.

BUCK: Let’s wargame this, including the possibility of a pardon here, which I still think isn’t gonna happen because I don’t think they’re gonna bring actual criminal charges against Hunter. To your point, though — to your point about Hillary possibly stepping in — the best option, it would seem to me, would be to have Biden step down, have Kamala take over, and then have a contested Democrat primary against Kamala, right? You don’t want to have a contested primary so Biden would have to step down or you’re saying he just wouldn’t run at all for reelection?

CLAY: He just would announce he’s not gonna run. If Hillary potentially is ordering this kneecap — and it wouldn’t stun me if you look at her relationships in the DNC — then she doesn’t want Kamala running as the incumbent in any way. She wants a wide-open primary.