TULSI GABBARD: Freedom of speech is being threatened. People are being intimated. Their financial security is being threatened. They are being censored or being intimidated into censoring themselves. If the powers that be decide, “Well, if we don’t like the things that you’re saying then we will find a way to silence you and censor you.”

This is something that every single American should be afraid of because we need to have the confidence in America that we can express ourselves, that we have the freedom to speak without the threat of punishment looming over us. That right there is literally the difference between living in a democracy or living in a dictatorship.

BUCK: Tulsi Gabbard there — absolutely right — and I’ve said this in the past and I really stand behind it and think that it’s even more true over time. The reason that there was always some animus on the left, the reason the Democrats, some of them, have always hated Tulsi Gabbard in some way is because she doesn’t hate Republicans. She’s not a hateful person.

She is a left-of-center politician but served her country, loves her country, and is willing to talk to the other side and for a contingent, one that I would argue is really the vanguard of the Democrat Party these days that in itself — you’re platforming them! — is unacceptable. And I think Tulsi, Clay, is in the same line here or same group of individuals who…

Joe Rogan is there. I would say look at the Canadian truckers. People who don’t fit neatly into a specific political category who are just like good folks. And it’s fascinating how much the current Democrat apparatus goes after them and is so nasty about them, you know? You can’t just say, “Oh, those are good people.” Think about this. Truckers, good people. Tulsi, good people. Joe Rogan, good people. And they hate them for it.

CLAY: Yeah, and Tulsi is what is rare now: A rational Democratic voice. You can agree or disagree, again, on policy-related terms, but everything she says is eminently reasonable. Now, you may have a difference of opinion on a variety of different issues, but this used to be how we debated issues in the country. It was somewhat reasonable people in the middle part of their parties conversed, interacted, and tried to make the best decisions for the country going forward. The Democratic Party has gone so haywire. They talk a lot about January 6th and how the Republican Party has gone out of whack. I think, Buck, if you look at where Republicans are today versus 2000, it’s not that different, compared to where Democrats are. It’s wildly different.